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	<title>Comments on: Where&#8217;s Lucy when you need him?</title>
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	<description>One Damn Thing Leads to Another</description>
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		<title>By: ebt</title>
		<link>http://jaycurrie.info-syn.com/wheres-lucy-when-you-need-him/#comment-38332</link>
		<dc:creator>ebt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Mr. Francis. Publishing occurs where the material is made net-accessible. That's at the server site.

In Canadian law, a tort occurs in a province if the damage occurs in that province, so the place of publication is irrelevant if the material can be read in the province. Your lawsuit had nothing to do with the place of publication.

The problem which both you and I overlooked, and which motivated me to dig this thread up, is that the Human Rights Acts do not restrict themselves to what you publish, but forbid you to CAUSE to be published the various things they object to. This prevents you from getting any advantage from publishing abroad. You cause a blog entry to be published when you transmit it to the publisher, wherever he may be, and you do that transmitting from your home in Canada.

My apologies if anyone was misled by my earlier observations, which were accurate as far as they went, but didn't go far enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Mr. Francis. Publishing occurs where the material is made net-accessible. That&#8217;s at the server site.</p>
<p>In Canadian law, a tort occurs in a province if the damage occurs in that province, so the place of publication is irrelevant if the material can be read in the province. Your lawsuit had nothing to do with the place of publication.</p>
<p>The problem which both you and I overlooked, and which motivated me to dig this thread up, is that the Human Rights Acts do not restrict themselves to what you publish, but forbid you to <span class="caps">CAUSE</span> to be published the various things they object to. This prevents you from getting any advantage from publishing abroad. You cause a blog entry to be published when you transmit it to the publisher, wherever he may be, and you do that transmitting from your home in Canada.</p>
<p>My apologies if anyone was misled by my earlier observations, which were accurate as far as they went, but didn&#8217;t go far enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Francis</title>
		<link>http://jaycurrie.info-syn.com/wheres-lucy-when-you-need-him/#comment-37656</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Legally, the CHRC can’t do anything about anything on the internet that isn’t actually posted in Canada. If your server is outside Canada, then the publication takes place where your server is located, and is not subject to Canadian law. Since it’s not against the law for him to post it, it’s not against the law for you to help him do it."

Incorrect. In Canadian law, the publishing of Internet content occurs at the client computer, not at the server.

This blog on an American server

http://greencompostheap.blogspot.com/

got suspended due to a lawsuit launched in BC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Legally, the <span class="caps">CHRC</span> can&#8217;t do anything about anything on the internet that isn&#8217;t actually posted in Canada. If your server is outside Canada, then the publication takes place where your server is located, and is not subject to Canadian law. Since it&#8217;s not against the law for him to post it, it&#8217;s not against the law for you to help him do it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Incorrect. In Canadian law, the publishing of Internet content occurs at the client computer, not at the server.</p>
<p>This blog on an American server</p>
<p><a href="http://greencompostheap.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://greencompostheap.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>got suspended due to a lawsuit launched in BC.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://jaycurrie.info-syn.com/wheres-lucy-when-you-need-him/#comment-37578</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been thinking of the CBC anti-Americanism angle for a while.  I remember specifically a couple of years ago Air Farce selected George W. as their food cannon target.  This was so old, tired and predictable (why not Kim Jong Il, Robert Mugabe etc.?) that it I tuned out ever since.

Can you imagine a cartoon of Mohammed not only been shown on the CBC but being plastered with slop?  And if they did - the uproar - Maybe we should demand equal opportunity for him.

Anyway, I have been waiting for some ex-patriot American to file a complaint - but then if there is one thing you can say about the Yanks, they are not prone to whining.

Another tactic might be to launch a complaint against the CIC and the law students, saying that their whining is "likely" to cause people to dislike Muslims.  I am certain that their speech in this regard is stirring up a lot more ill-will than Mark Steyn and Macleans.

Finally, with regard to the word "likely" in the legislation. In a real court this might be interpreted in some real statistical sense - except it would be applied to an event that had already occurred, not in the future.  I did a search on the OJ trial and discovered that the chance that DNA experts testified that the blood was "likely" his to the tune of a 1 in 50 billion chance that it wasn't his!! That was not good enough for the jury, who came to believe as I recall that the sample was planted by the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been thinking of the <span class="caps">CBC</span> anti-Americanism angle for a while.  I remember specifically a couple of years ago Air Farce selected George W. as their food cannon target.  This was so old, tired and predictable (why not Kim Jong Il, Robert Mugabe etc.?) that it I tuned out ever since.</p>
<p>Can you imagine a cartoon of Mohammed not only been shown on the <span class="caps">CBC</span> but being plastered with slop?  And if they did &#8211; the uproar &#8211; Maybe we should demand equal opportunity for him.</p>
<p>Anyway, I have been waiting for some ex-patriot American to file a complaint &#8211; but then if there is one thing you can say about the Yanks, they are not prone to whining.</p>
<p>Another tactic might be to launch a complaint against the <span class="caps">CIC</span> and the law students, saying that their whining is &#8220;likely&#8221; to cause people to dislike Muslims.  I am certain that their speech in this regard is stirring up a lot more ill-will than Mark Steyn and Macleans.</p>
<p>Finally, with regard to the word &#8220;likely&#8221; in the legislation. In a real court this might be interpreted in some real statistical sense &#8211; except it would be applied to an event that had already occurred, not in the future.  I did a search on the OJ trial and discovered that the chance that <span class="caps">DNA</span> experts testified that the blood was &#8220;likely&#8221; his to the tune of a 1 in 50 billion chance that it wasn&#8217;t his!! That was not good enough for the jury, who came to believe as I recall that the sample was planted by the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Nielsen</title>
		<link>http://jaycurrie.info-syn.com/wheres-lucy-when-you-need-him/#comment-37492</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Nielsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you're looking for non typical targets to hit with complaints to CHRC, look no further than our friends at the CBC (mostly radio) who have repeatedly bombarded us with messages that are likely to expose Conservatives, Christians, Gun Owners, Replublicans, George Bush and/or friends of George Bush, and Americans in general, to hatred or contempt based on their race (WASP) religion (conservative Christian) ect (political views).

If that doesn't work, maybe you can hit someone on the comedy channel for telling a Newfie joke (Those never fail to offend me!)

Good Luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re looking for non typical targets to hit with complaints to <span class="caps">CHRC</span>, look no further than our friends at the <span class="caps">CBC </span>(mostly radio) who have repeatedly bombarded us with messages that are likely to expose Conservatives, Christians, Gun Owners, Replublicans, George Bush and/or friends of George Bush, and Americans in general, to hatred or contempt based on their race (WASP) religion (conservative Christian) ect (political views).</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t work, maybe you can hit someone on the comedy channel for telling a Newfie joke (Those never fail to offend me!)</p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Hannibal Lectern</title>
		<link>http://jaycurrie.info-syn.com/wheres-lucy-when-you-need-him/#comment-37466</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannibal Lectern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,

To up the ante, the graphic needs to show the guy smoking a high tar cigarette in the presence of kids not buckled into their car seats. With the windows closed. And soldiers. In our streets. In our cities. In Canada.

And an itty bitty purple dinosaur in the screaming in the back seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>To up the ante, the graphic needs to show the guy smoking a high tar cigarette in the presence of kids not buckled into their car seats. With the windows closed. And soldiers. In our streets. In our cities. In Canada.</p>
<p>And an itty bitty purple dinosaur in the screaming in the back seat.</p>
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		<title>By: RobertJago</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobertJago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on you.  Let's bury them under these complaints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on you.  Let&#8217;s bury them under these complaints.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://jaycurrie.info-syn.com/wheres-lucy-when-you-need-him/#comment-37428</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I might make use of the Lucy/Stacey 'But we’re the good guys' defense."

I don't think you get your good guy merit badge until you can prove you've mastered hijacking unsecured wireless access points. So please refrain from claiming "good guy" status until you can produce the accompanying badge as certification of your rank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I might make use of the Lucy/Stacey &#8216;But we&#8217;re the good guys&#8217; defense.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you get your good guy merit badge until you can prove you&#8217;ve mastered hijacking unsecured wireless access points. So please refrain from claiming &#8220;good guy&#8221; status until you can produce the accompanying badge as certification of your rank.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you remembered to ask for punitives, Jay.  But don't get your hopes up. Rumour has it the Commission is meeting today to discuss whether they can reject any complaint that comes from a hateful fax machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you remembered to ask for punitives, Jay.  But don&#8217;t get your hopes up. Rumour has it the Commission is meeting today to discuss whether they can reject any complaint that comes from a hateful fax machine.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a very hateful graphic. And it is on a website. Yup...you better fire up the fax machine. (Of course I might make use of the Lucy/Stacey "But we're the good guys" defense. But I'd probably lose.) Hall of mirrors I tell 'ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a very hateful graphic. And it is on a website. Yup&#8230;you better fire up the fax machine. (Of course I might make use of the Lucy/Stacey &#8220;But we&#8217;re the good guys&#8221; defense. But I&#8217;d probably lose.) Hall of mirrors I tell &#8216;ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be short lived. That's a very hateful graphic you've got on your Web site above these comments, and, well...

... um ...

...I *do* have a fax machine, single-sided, no less. And now my fingers are itchy.

:-p~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be short lived. That&#8217;s a very hateful graphic you&#8217;ve got on your Web site above these comments, and, well&#8230;</p>
<p>... um &#8230;</p>
<p>...I <strong>do</strong> have a fax machine, single-sided, no less. And now my fingers are itchy.</p>
<p>:-p~~~</p>
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