Ian Welsh channels the still living Gore Vidal

What fun. Gore has pretty much given up writing his alternative State of the Union message; but our own Ian Welsh at Tilting at Windmills and the Blogging of the President has picked up the torch.

The US is bankrupt.
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Ian leads off. Well, to paraphrase Bill Clinton, “It depends on what you mean by bankrupt”. The United States owes a great deal of money as a government and Americans owe a great deal of money individually; but bankruptcy occurs when a) there is no one who will continue to finance the debt and b) there is no reasonable prospect of being able to repay the debt. At the moment, with a war on, a Congress obsessed with earmarks, assorted natural disasters and, frankly, a President who has forgotten the line item veto, the debt is around 61% of GDP. Not good. However, compared, for example, to Japan’s 162% of GDP position, the balliffs are not quite at the door.

The US is a propaganda state.

Gore used the much more sinister, America is a national security state. Ian has an earlier, but unlinked post, on this which I don’t have time to read. But his example is “on important issues, like who attacked the country, US citizens simply believe things that are lies”. It is possible that Ian has slipped on the full metal beanie and is going with Mossad, the Jews and Halburton as the 9/11 culprits. Me, I’m sticking with OBL and Islamofasism financed by mainly Saudi money. I have yet to see anything very convincing to suggest any other explaination as to “who attacked the country”.

The US has a military it can’t afford. That military is a battlefield superiority force and completely unsuited for colonial wars of occupation.

Yes to the latter: however, America is not in the business of fighting “colonial wars of occupation” no matter how devoutly Ian and the BOP folks want to characterize Afghanistan and Iraq as colonial adventures. As to what military American can afford that remains an open question. At this point decades long investments in high tech net war are paying off in fairly effortless battlefield domination. A lesson which may, or may not, be registering in the hearts and minds of enemies a wee bit more significant than Uncle Cuddles. In which case the investment is very definitely worth it.

The US political system is irredeemably corrupt.

has been since Mr. Shoddy first discovered there was money to be made selling goods to Union troops in the Civil War. however, the idea of irredeemably may not be entirely accurate. The growing “porkbuster” movement in the US is encouraging. So are some of the spending limit proposals. But, most of all, the fact that the institutional, bi-partisan, corruption of Congress is being exposed offeres some hope that anti-corruption insurgencies may break out. Not likely in this round of congressional elections; but 2008 may be a whole new ballgame.

Average Americans have not seen a wage increase in 30 years, in real terms.

This would not surprise me a bit. The problem is that “average Americans” are not the engines of economic growth which they once were. They have been priced out of world markets partially because of wage competition, partially because, in combination with largely inert managements in smokestack industries they relied upon protectionism to ensure their iron rice bowl remained intact. Unions resisted productivity measures and, with a speed which astonished them, saw their jobs go to Mexico or Asia or even Canada. That, I fear, is how free markets work.

The US has had a class war, and the rich won it.

The American economy moved from an industrial to a post industrial situation and the value added came less and less from labour and more and more from capital and ideas. There is an international market for capital and ideas and if a government chooses heavily tax either they will - for tax purposes - move elsewhere. Certainly the United States could have kept high marginal tax rates; but at the ost of seeing its one significant competitive advantage erode.

A proper correction of the US economy, including its various deficits would lead to a 15% to 20% decline in general standards of living.

This is largely meaningless as there is no serious way of determining what a “proper correction” is. There are plenty of circumstances in which the American economy might contract by that much or more. There are also circumstances in which it could expand at a greater than 5% rate for a number of years.

The US is currently a protectionist state, where agriculture, real estate, medicine, the prison/police industry, and the military industrial complex are where people make money.

This would seem to contradict the logic of Ian’s earlier statement about the absence of any increase in average people’s wages. But, no matter, if you look at the examples, they are all areas which cannot be easily exported. Nor are theyparticularily threatened by foreign competition. It is difficult to imagine why you would need protectionism, conventionally defined, for real estate or the prison/police industry.

There is, however, lots of evidence that Congress in a gang of theives bi-partisan manner are more than happy to pass absurdly protectionist legislation (and the President willing to sign it). See corruption above. The way, of course to bring this to an end is to elect really hard core free traders to the Senate and the House.

The US is an ignorant state with a decaying education system.

Well don’t tell Larry Sumner cause he might think it a good idea to have universities which actually teach rather than toe the PC line. It is a good point however so long as you largely ignore the fact that most of the world’s top universities are in the United States and that huge numbers of extremely well educated people graduate each year in Arts, Sciences, Engineering - broadly defined), Coputer Science and so on. Sure, there are lots of bogus BAs and there is far too much “credentialling” in the name of fairness which excludes rather than includes certificate challenged but competent people.

As for the “functionally illiterate underclass ” the roots of that trouble are partially in funding but mainly in the disintegration of particularily black family life in the US. Where the responsibility for that lies is difficult to determine; but I am inclined to think that Daniel Moynihan had a fairly clear view of the nature of the problem as early as 1965.

The US has a massive underclass which it keeps in line with a harshly punitive and injust legal system which incarcerates more people per capita than any other modern nation, even surpassing Russia.

Given that I think that the War on Drugs - which is how most of the “underclass” get to prison is a horrible mistake and a rolling train wreck of a policy which, tragically, has some resonance in key voting segments of the American population I agree. But I am damned if I can see what is to be done about it.

A ceasefire in the WOD without full legalization would, if anything, simply encourage more gang violence and drug use. Until the profit is taken out of drugs the same insane patterns will contiune to repeat themselves.

The US, in short, is a hegemonic power near the end of its golden era….Like most hegemonic powers in such a position there are still the necessary resources to turn things around. But like most powers the road to ruin has been chosen, because choosing life would require painful changes.

I am inclined to think that a part of the United States is, in fact, just on the threshold of a truely golden era. And one which will float all boats.

It is late and I’ve not the time to do justice to the future but the bullet is this: the intersection of genetics, nanotechnology, information science, intelligent energy design, longevity research, pharmaceutical specifics, space engineering and computation is a reality right now. The groundwork in everything from materials science to artificial intelligence has been laid. The rapid, within a fifteen to twenty year horizon, deployment of working technologies based upon the decades long investments in basic and applied science has already begun.

The old American economy is or will, very shortly be, dead. It is an economy which made things and there are now cheaper places to make things if it is people who are making them. Those things revolved around the quaint custom of buring dead dinos at 1% efficiency to drive places. That is over.

What will replace it are sets of technologies which eliminate the need to drive anywhere while offering the means to do so at first 5% and quite soon 30-40% efficiencies. And the amount of work, good work, well paying work, which will be creted as that particular transformation takes place will be astonishing.

However, along with the transformation of the 20-25% of the American economy devoted to the car, the advent of really good medical, nano technical and genetic therapy; the creation of relatively intelligent ipod like devices; the extension of productive life by several decades will all tend to create an economic powerhouse an order of magnitude greater than America’s current, transitional economy.

And yes there will be dislocations. And yes avian flu could set some of this back. And yes, a default on the soverign debt of America would create a worldwide depression. However, fundamentally, the technological train is on the rails and there is really no stopping it.

The only question will b whether or not the rest of the world, including Canada, will be bright enough to adopt the engines of radical change which are already arriving daily.

Written by jay on March 1st, 2006 with 7 comments.
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#1. March 1st, 2006, at 10:11 PM.

“a President who has forgotten the line item veto”

The Federal line item veto does not exist. It was found unconstitutional in 1998 in the case Clinton v. City of New York.

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#2. March 1st, 2006, at 11:45 PM.

I guess I should have linked the prior post on propaganda for you - the majority of Americans, at the time of the Iraq war fire sale, believed that Iraq was behind 9-11. That’s clearly false and that’s clearly what they believed.] This isn’t a guess on my part, at the time polls showed more than 50% of Americans thought Iraq was involved. Since Iraq wasn’t involved, that indicates that propaganda was involved.

The world’s top universities are in the US. But the vast majority of people with BA’s don’t get their educations in those very few universities. I could go on and talk about the decline in science and engineering, but I’m sure you’re aware of them, even if you’re ignoring them. Likewise, the fact that Toyota has had the experience of having to use pictograms to train workers is simply a fact, whether you like it or not. And bear in mind that they would have chosen the top few percent of applicants for well paying jobs.

The upcoming waves of technologies are mostly not areas where the US leads. Sorry. Other nations have the lead in most of the things you’re talking about. The lead horse on deploymnet of new technologies (not the research) gets the majority of the benefit, and the US, with its relatively high costs, needs to be that lead horse to sustain its current system.. The current tech wave, for example, is (or should be) a wireless wave. Companies are suing to slow down the spread of the infrastructure in the US.

You entirely missed the point on the US being a protectionist state. Export areas are losing jobs, non export areas are gaining jobs and the structure of subsidies is clearly intended to prop up protected areas. That doesn’t contradict my point about the lack of rise of wages for ordinary Americans (ON AVERAGE), which is frankly as close to indisputable as it gets, since it is based on solid numbers from the BLS. (Oh, you can try and shift numbers to households and add in supervisory workers and then average and say everything’s hunky dory, but my point was that wages for most people haven’t risen, and that’s simply a fact that the technosloptomists have to deal with. Too bad for them that they can’t.)

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#3. March 2nd, 2006, at 1:49 AM.

Ian should have titled his post “The Way I Would Like Things To Be”.

The US won’t be bankrupt until it is bankrupt.

The US is a propaganda state. Was that supposed to be a criticism? Every state is. All governments select evidence to support their ideas and initiatives. Similarly, most if not all states are still protectionist. This is doubtless a criticism if you are a strongly committed free trader.

If any nation could ever afford a lavish military, it’s the US. US defence spending as a fraction of GDP (which is a useful expression of relative affordability) has been almost monotonically decreasing since at least 1990 to the point where it is only a little more than 50% higher than the western European NATO average. Furthermore, it’s not the stay-at-home, occasional-UN-battalion military many nations are paying to support. The US has the will to use its armed forces in pursuit of its interests and at least gets something useful back - arguably much more than most if not all nations - in return for the money poured down the military sinkhole.

It’s difficult to judge whether the way the US government runs its country is any worse or better than the way the entrenched Liberal interests behaved in Canada.

If average US wages have not grown, but productivity has grown (it has) at a rate which exceeded inflation (it has), then it would mean the same wages cover more net productivity gains which would mean US workers are relatively better off. Unless it’s demonstrated that only people other than the average US wage earner have absorbed the benefits of the productivity gains, it’s safest to assume that US average economic standards of living have improved. To write of wage gains or losses without due consideration to what those wages afford is meaningless propaganda.

I was curious to see a plot of the past, say, 50 years to show in which years the US economy grew and in which years it contracted. It would be helpful to have an idea how frequently the latter occurs. I found this: http://www.eh.net/hmit/gdp/
The hope the US economy is due for a prolonged and large contraction is likely a forlorn one.

The backlash against the dumbing down of education in the US is slow, but seems to be gathering steam. I calculate the US is following an improvement vector, not a degradation one.

>..near the end of its golden age

This is where the mistitling kicks in.

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#4. March 2nd, 2006, at 1:52 AM.

I am inclined to a position of “not proven” as to Iraqi involvement on the periphery of 9/11. But the fact that 50% of Americans believe “x” does not imply propoganda; rather it implies the irreducible ignorance of the vast majority of people when it comes to complicated questions reducced to a pollster’s phone call. You’ll remember the silly exercise where Americans were asked if they agreed or disagreed with various elements of the American constitution. As i recall around 50% did not agrree with stuff like the 1st amendment.

And you are making an even broder claim: that America is a “propoganda state”. That implies, for example, that a site like BOP would not be allowed to exist but, hey, there it is. As is Kos and the DU. For your claim to be correct you’d have to demonstrate that the American government was not only shaping its message but preventing other messages. This is simply not the case.

We agree that most of the top universities in the world are in the States. I think we might also agree that the pulic school system is a shambles. The Toyota example is about the latter. For which there are solutions but they imply “de-prrofessionalizing” the public school establishment and breaking the teachers’ unions death grip on government funding for education. Not going to happen quickly.

There is no question that other countries - often as the result of having some of their very bright kids taught at US colleges - have caught up to the US in a number of areas. (Which I think bodes well for the world at large.) However, technology is not a zero sum game.

Watching the communications carriers conduct their rearguard on wireless and try to impose tiering on the net is a bit sad. Rather like watching ATT trying to pretend that there was a natural monopoly in long distance. The problem they face is that the cost of the wireless is dropping so fast that their obstructionism will simply be routed around either technically or legally. (This last is more likely: joining a “club” for wireless access will make a joke of the current municipal regulations - likely illegal in themselves.

More generally, the scope for and funding of technological innovation - developed in the US or abroad - is huge in the US. While the car makers and “wire owners” sink under the weight of their own shortsightedness, smart, entreprenurial people are bringing everything from broad coverage wireless to solar film to market at absurdly low prices. The wholesale replacement of the current technological infrastructure in the US will drive the American economy to heights unimagined just a few years ago.

It is hardly surprising that some export sectors of the US economy are declining. it is pretty much impossible to compete with Malaysian or Chinese labour nor should that be a serious economic goal. (As you know, I don’t like subsidies of any form and would like to see them sqeezed out of the American economy quickly.)

I am, of course, suspicious about any number purporting to be about “ordinary” Americans. And I am equally suspicious when the unit of measure is the individual wehn most Americans live in families. And when you exclude supervisory workers I begin to have the sense that the claim is being rather carefully woven from whole cloth.

However, for the moment let me provisionally grant your point about the “average” American worker not having had a real wage increase since 1970. This is not at all surprising as the contribution of that worker to the growth of the American economy has been relatively minor. There is no iron law of markets which says that increases in wealth and produtivity are to be shared on an averaged basis. The “average” worker has two rather stark choices. Go on being “average” and there continue to make average money which keeps pace with inflation but does not put the worker at all ahead, or cease being average. Simply showing up, punching the clock and doing the eight hour shift is not going to get a person ahead. Which huge numbers of Americans recognize and are acting on.

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#5. March 2nd, 2006, at 6:43 AM.

Any particular reason you misspelled Ian’s last name, twice?

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#6. March 2nd, 2006, at 6:49 AM.

Er, because I am an idiot….Thanks James…

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#7. March 3rd, 2006, at 10:50 AM.

“I guess I should have linked the prior post on propaganda for you - the majority of Americans, at the time of the Iraq war fire sale, believed that Iraq was behind 9-11. That’s clearly false and that’s clearly what they believed.]”

Would this be the same majority of Americans who gave Bill ‘I did not have sexual relations with that woman’ Clinton increased approval ratings during and after the Monicagate scandal? This is after it came out that she smoked his pink cigar and he had improved the protein content of her famous blue dress.

Hell, if I were president I’d lie to the majority of Americans too. They obviously deserve it.

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