Hamas=Nazis
Quick…call Richard Warman. There’s a hate crime in progress.
Stung by bloggers making fun of their useless efforts to nail basement Nazis and loony Arthur Topham while ignoring the actual anti-semites in our midst, B’nai Brith connects the dots and notices where there are large number of people, with guns and rockets, actively trying to kill Jews.
It is just possible that this will shame the CJC into a similar, intelligent, response. But I am not holding my breath.
Plus, there is no question at all that this ad is likely to subject Hamas supporters – almost all of whom are Muslims – to hatred and contempt. Hamas=Nazis tends to do that. (And, as we know, it does not matter if that is true..the coward Lynch and her gang don’t care. They know Hate when they see it.)
If Lucy can tear himself away from his SLAPP suits I’m sure there is a complaint here somewhere. Actually, maybe I should file one on the Warman logic that you don’t actually have to be a member of the hated group to “collect” on their behalf.
Update: Our lefty pals over at Big City Lib are working themselves up into a frenzy. Not a lot of light but lots of heat. Harry, get over there and fight the real anti-semites. And a special, and typically incoherent, intervention by Jason “It’s racist to say only smart people can be Jewish” Cherniak demonstrating why we miss him in the Canadian blogosphere.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:46 am
A real Dawg Day Afternoon…
In other news, 1947 sounds an awful lot like Churchill 3 years out of office.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:32 am
Are you absolutely confident that readers will understand that which you are intending to convey?
I have an MA in English, and to me it’s total nonsense.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Oh Blue – I understaand it entirely. It was my exact thought.
I wonder if Harry will file a complaint though?
November 10th, 2009 at 6:18 am
You have an MA in English?...ask for a refund.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Wow. The B’nai Brith finally put something out I can agree with. That must be a sign of the Apocalypse and the end of the age.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:59 am
The MA was likely from “Last Chance U” or one of the Toronto diploma Mills.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:16 am
The ad exposes and attacks RADICAL POLITICAL groups, not the religion of Islam per se. Indeed if you re-read the ad it indicates that moderate Muslims are also victims.
I suppose it’s timely for several reasons. The anniversary of Kristallnacht, which showed that no amount of integration and secular participation in the larger culture protected Jews in Germany…also the matter of that US soldier who shot up that army base. was it one man going berserk, or was there a cruel ideology involved?
November 10th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Harry, of course I agree with you; however, the professionally aggrieved may not. And, as you know all too well Harry, it just takes one person (who may not even be a member of the group in question (Hi Lucy)) to file a s. 13 complaint alleging hate speech.
Frankly I hope Omar Ha-Redeye (apparently his real name) files against BB on this ad. Not because I think it is hate speech or that I think it is not true; rather because it is well past time for BB and the CJC to stop pretending that they can regulate free speech in Canada. Having their noses rubbed in the inherent contradictions of such regulation will be a useful experience.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:30 am
But Harry – why is the JDL not mentioned then as a RADICAL POLITICAL GROUP?
Any reason the massacre of 1 Million of The Bahá’í Faith were not included? Clerical error or as Jay says “An inhererent contradiction”?
November 10th, 2009 at 9:34 am
‘extremism in the extinguishing of liberty is no vice…and moderation in the pursuit of that goal is no virtue.”
November 10th, 2009 at 9:48 am
I respectfully disagree Jay.
There is something to be said for controlling certain kinds of hate propaganda. Problem has been that when we’re seeking relief from the most violent stuff, that’s at the criminal level of 318 and 319, Attorneys General in Canada have been uncooperative for the most part. The Civil code has been more accessible, so that’s what’s been used.
There are problems with both, but even so, there should be a ceiling on violent and harshly demonizing incitement in the public domain.
BTW I appreciate you picking up on that “bagel” business. Thanks for understanding.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:13 am
My view is that the ad is a timely polemic, especially in the wake of Ft. Hood and the cowardly reaction of the MSM and our Politicos. Bravo B’nai, I hope you offended all the right people.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Harry, Kristallnacht signalled that Jews could not rely on the state for protection from violent acts against them by their fellow citizens.
The follow-up, wherein the state confiscated insurance funds owing to Jewish shopkeepers from that rampage, was only possible due the ‘moral anaesthetizing’ already inculcated into German society by that time.
Whether folks simply didn’t care what happened to Jews, or worse, remained silent due fear of being seen as ‘Jew-lovers’, the lesson to be learned from ‘the night of broken glass’ is that citizens have an obligation to stand up for their fellow citizens when their governors fail in that obligation.
You may properly point to perverse interpretation of Islamic faith as an enemy force to be confronted, as you and BB have done, but your own actions with human rights hate-speech persecutions, alongside derogation of fellow citizens to deliberately marginalize them, coupled with attacking those who protest those actions, are the stuff that to Kristallnacht.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
That is some of the funniest commentary at BCL’s I have seen in a long time, anti-zionists/liberals (hard to tell em apart) and a couple of CJCer’s all denouncing B’nai Brith and each other. Great fun.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Too many comments to be bothered Arnie,
I personally found the ADD offensive as it relates to the posting of the images of Children.
Now I couldn’t tell if they were play guns or not but how many of us from our youth had pictures of cowboys and Indians?
In todays PC environment – such could be considered part of child exploitation and even child pornography.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Bravo for B’nai Brith for pointing out the historic allegiance between islam and the left. I don’t imagine the lefties like to have it pointed out to them that they can’t really hide their hatred for the Jews, and that they will sleep with anyone if it helps rid the earth of the Jews.
I can’t believe B’nai Brith had the balls to do it, but maybe the Jews realize this time they had better speak up before it is too late. That is what happened last time, in the 30’s, the Jews couldn’t believe it was actually happening. It was too late to fight back.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
LS, I find the pictures of the children entirely offensive because I have seen so many. Hamas prides itself on recruiting children. As did the Nazis. These are not casual Cowboy and Indian shots, these are well organized photo ops.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Well Jay, it is of course true they are not casual and “...are well organized photo ops”. They have now become well organized propaganda of the innocents.
The UN has protocols for Child Soldiers and the horror they have suffered is not to be trivialized.
Child pornography and child exploitation which these are then is also condemnable for the republishing and sensationalizing and actionable. For whatever cause.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Just surprised CJC, CIC and BB do not comment on Fort Hood.
Or -post photos of Child soldiers, starving children in Somalia, Congo or elsewhere in Africa?
Rwanda?
November 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
“It’s racist to say only smart people can be Jewish”
That’s absurd! ‘All Jewish people are smart’ isn’t the same thing at all…;)
November 10th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
LS/SK don’t expect any NGO’s to comment on the Fort Hood matter until there’s been a full inquiry. Everybody’s been asking the same question…was this the work of a man who went berserk or was it another 9-11?
I think I got an email today from CJC about Mia Farrow and Darfur…here it is http://www.cjc.ca/darfur/ and I know BBC has an outreach to Canadian troops in Afghanistan http://www.bnaibrith.ca/pdf/OperationThankYouFlyer.pdf so these two NGO’s DO do have other things besides Jewish and Israel stuff on the go.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Ooops, sorry..that B’nai Brith notice was a little dated. here’s the current one:
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/prdisplay.php?id=1577
November 10th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
I read that rabid response to the B’nai Brith ad over at BCL, and I am pissing my pants laughing at Retardo Robo and the thing called Ti-guy. They keep demanding what it all means, what do people expect from the mulsims. I can’t speak for everyone else, but I assume Bnai Brith and any other civilized human on the planet would want the muslims to fuck right off with the jihad shit. We don’t like the idiot sticks holding us hostage with their many acts of terrorism,suicide bombers,nuclear threat attacks etc, etc. We aren’t going to take it, we’re fighting back. No more pretending we tolerate islam and its barbaric ways and followers. We’re just trying to tell islam to fuck off, politely at this time, and if they don’t… well, we will be the ones dancing on their graves.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Honey Pot,
You really should try to separate the radical Jihadism from the religion of Islam. Like you wouldn’t tar all “Christians” with the Spanish Inquisition.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Harry, the big difference between Islam and Christianity lies in the fact the Spanish Inquisition was, literally, hundreds of years ago. We have moved on. Islam has not.
I would not want to taint Jewry with the sins of the “Settlers” nor would I assume that all Muslims support Hamas; but both religions need to shun their extremists.
As you know, I will fight Israel’s corner hard and often;but I am am not unaware that the internal politics of Israel throw up some pretty ugly consequences. So do the jihadi politics of some of the Palestinians.
As Mathew 7:5 puts it:
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
I am with BB in pointing out the plank in the Palis’s eye; but there may very well be a plank in Israel’s.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:43 am
yeah Harry I would. I really have no use for any religion. I consider them all kind of stupid. As long as they are not interfering with my life, I don’t think about them too much. I don’t see christians killing in the name of their god. Not sayng they didn’t, because we all know they have. islam as a cult has not evolved, as other religions have, and the way it is set up, it doesn’t look like it s going to. If a so called moderate muslim speaks up against the barbaric teachngs of islam they are no longer considered a muslim by the rest of the cult, and are marked for death. Of all the cults, islam is the most barbaric and dangerous as it considers all non-muslims as not worthy to inhabit the earth.
November 11th, 2009 at 5:01 am
Harry: it took the Spanish Inquisition 400 years to kill 3000 people. The Muzzies did that in one morning.
And the Spanish Inquisition was considered tame compared to its secular, government equivalent, which you hear nothing about. Prisoners ASKED to be tried by the Church’s courts because they were considered MORE lenient.
It helps if you get your history from more accurate sources than Chick comics and old Vincent Price movies.
November 11th, 2009 at 6:50 am
@Harry “LS/SK don’t expect any NGO’s to comment on the Fort Hood matter until there’s been a full inquiry”.
One of us needs remedial English. Ask Blue for assistance :)
I was in no way suggesting any NGO or Government should comment about the individuals religion or links – just was commenting that so many prominent bloggers and litigators on the Left didn’t find it in their hearts and minds to offer condolences to the dead and wounded.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Not to mention the Inquisition actually dismissed most of the cases brought before them because the inquisitors did not believe the accusers. Some standard of “proof” was required; it wasn’t a random slaughter.
(I know this because I had a history prof who specialized in the Inquisition. She also took feminists to task for their claim that 9 million women were killed by the Inquisition—when the entire population of Europe at that time was only 4 million.)
And yes, it’s been 400 years so how about we stop bringing it up every time Christianity is mentioned, as a kind of moral equivalence?
November 11th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Honey Pot,
I’m sorry, but I can’t find it in myself to HATE the Somali-born new Cdn. guy who runs a halal meat shop on Quadra Street. And I sure as hell have no intention of hating my pharmacist, whose family fled Iran and the Ayatollah.
I’m sure that they find this extreme Jihadist imperialist backwardness as repugnant as I do.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Kathy, what are Chick comics?
Vincent Price…ha..ha.. ha!
November 11th, 2009 at 9:43 am
but the spanish inquisition had legs…..i believe the last victim was circa 1830….a long drawn out affair over a minor religious matter…but nevertheless the poor fellow was eventually garroted…
November 11th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Does Robert have a JOO meter that pops up when the word Jew appears on the net? He sure seems to pop up just in time to spew forth his/her/it’s nonsensical thinly veiled anti-semitic tripe.
November 11th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Harry here is a Chick Comics sampler – Are Roman Catholics Christians?
November 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
She also took feminists to task for their claim that 9 million women were killed by the Inquisition—when the entire population of Europe at that time was only 4 million.
That was actually a reference to witch-burnings, not the activities of the Inquisition. And I think most people now regard the figure as vastly over-inflated.
But…the population of Europe at the time was only 4 million? Are you sure?
November 11th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Good thing Section 13 is in limbo or the Bnai Brith and National Post would have had some ‘splainin to do.
November 11th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
“I’m sorry, but I can’t find it in myself to HATE the Somali-born new Cdn. guy who runs a halal meat shop on Quadra Street.”
Ah but you forget halal is made from the blood of non-Muslim babies.
November 11th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
no drpoodle….the number of your collective ancestor’s brain cells was only 4 million…
i for example have EASILY double that number…but still don’t have the sense to avoid attention seeking marcusian nits like the plague…
so what hope do the commoners have really ? ...in spite of your tender oh so dialectical ministrations…
November 11th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Harry I didn’t ask you to hate them, so don’t you dare ask me to appease them. You may kiss their asses left right and center, that is your choice, as foolish and naive as I think it is. I see no value in the teachings of islam. I see it as an oppressive barbaric death cult. I can say that Harry, and I don’t really care if that upsets you or the muzzie’s. How are the muzzie’s to know that their barbaric, oppressive death cult, is a barbaric oppresive death cult, if no one tells them? How will they ever evolve into something resembling a civilized people? You are not doing them any favours by letting them stay stupid.
November 12th, 2009 at 12:31 am
I’m quite willing to concede that the Dribbler has eight million brain cells. That explains a lot, actually.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
A Muslim, by definition believes in Islam.
Islam, by definition strives for a world caliphate which includes conversion or slave status, shariah, a theological world gov’t. Democracy is an antithesis to any good Muslim. If they say it is not they are either lying or not adhering to their faith