Instead, when I heard about it, I immediately said, great, let’s have a debate. No point me being in the same studio as the Sock Puppets and being kept in a hermetically sealed compartment. Yet even with a three-to-one advantage the Socks pussied out.
This is Islam as represented by the likes of the Canadian Islamic Congress. They don’t want any kind of honest open debate, because they can’t handle it. That’s why they prefer to use government agencies to shut down debate on the specious grounds of invented crimes like “Islamophobia”. And apparently TV producers, having been complicit in the fraud that the Sock Puppets are “the complainants”, are willing to protect the wee sensitive souls from any exposure of the charade. mark steyn
Has anyone told the Socks that in law the other side has a lawyer too?
These kids are priceless. They have galvanized the right and made the CHRC a laughingstock. Now they have demonstrated pure cowardice as wannabe bullies usually do.
The Lying Jackal reports that the Muslim-3 are planning on holding a news conference to make an offer to Macleans to settle the Human Rights complaint.
I suspect the prospect of another few months of public mockery followed by an unprecedented loss either before the Commissions or in the Courts was more than a little unappetizing. Plus, and I have no way of proving this, the steady erosion of support for the CHRC and the exposure of the CHRC’s wanton disregard for proper investigative methods and procedure, is taking its toll.
A couple of points - Toronto area bloggers, if possible - should try to cover the press conference. Macleans should be looking for an apology and costs from these sock puppets. Remember, the law students are not, in fact, the complainants here. The CIC is and it has the money to pay the significant expenses Macleans has incurred to date.
This is yet another piece of evidence we’re winning.
Update 2:Deborah Gyapong comes up with a reasonable negotiating position: Unconditional surrender with reparations and an apology.
Update 3: Over in “>Lying Jackal land commentors are handing Warren his head on a platter. He’s banned me from his comments - the truth hurts - but the unbanned are going to town. Now, remember, use that link. Page after page of “Lying Jackal” referrals. Has to leave a mark.
The cultural jihadists have enjoyed disturbing success. Two events in particular—the 2004 assassination in Amsterdam of Theo van Gogh in retaliation for his film about Islam’s oppression of women, and the global wave of riots, murders, and vandalism that followed a Danish newspaper’s 2005 publication of cartoons satirizing Mohammed—have had a massive ripple effect throughout the West. Motivated variously, and doubtless sometimes simultaneously, by fear, misguided sympathy, and multicultural ideology—which teaches us to belittle our freedoms and to genuflect to non-Western cultures, however repressive—people at every level of Western society, but especially elites, have allowed concerns about what fundamentalist Muslims will feel, think, or do to influence their actions and expressions. These Westerners have begun, in other words, to internalize the strictures of sharia, and thus implicitly to accept the deferential status of dhimmis—infidels living in Muslim societies.
Call it a cultural surrender. The House of War is slowly—or not so slowly, in Europe’s case—being absorbed into the House of Submission. bruce bawer city journal
If you want to get an idea of why fighting for free speech in Canada is critical go read Bawer’s piece in City Magazine. It is as depressing as it is vital.
We need to fight for free speech because it is an essential Western and Canadian value. And we need to fight hard because we are in very grave danger of losing the right to assert that value.
Canadian Human Rights Commission
344 Slater Street, 8th Floor,
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1E1,
Canada
April 21, 2008
By Fax
Dear Sirs,
Re: s. 13 Complaint: Rehmatpedia - Posted to the Internet
On April 20, 2008 http://www.islamunity.com/blogs/?p=100, location unknown but apparently in Canada, published an article which I believe is in direct violation of s. 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act, specifically it is “matter that is likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by reason of the fact that that person or those persons are identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination.” Specifically,
Some of these countries has no tolerance toward Muslims’ religious feelings - but are first to put anyone who question Jewish lies about the so-called ‘Jewish Holocaust’ - which has been proven as the greatest hoax of the 20th century. There is no denying to the fact that Jews themselves took part in Nazi genocide of millions of Gypsies, Christians and Jews.
This offensive article was, as well, published on the internet and can be seen at: http://www.islamunity.com/blogs/?p=100 (A screen shot is available.)
I wish to initiate a complaint pursuant to s. 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act with respect to this publication on the basis that it is likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by reason of the fact that that person or persons are identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination, in this case, religion.
I am available by phone or email at the addresses above.
I look forward to your prompt response.
Yours truly,
Jay Currie
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Yo, Mark, and Blazing: you find’em, I’ll file them and send the money to the Canuck 5/6 whatever. It will be fun to see what cunning tricks the CHRC employs to find the identity of Rehmat. I tried to send the “What is your addy for service comment but, apparently, Rehmat’s blog service provider does not know the answer to his spam id question.
And, Lying Jackal and Bernie Farber: let’s get cracking. This is a real live Holocaust Denier. Where is the CJC when you need them??
Update: Pettifog in the comments notes “I note now from the islamunity site that you are now described as a “Zionist fool”. Well done!!”
It’s an honour just to be nominated…with luck I can parlay this into “Rightous Goy” and spend the rest of my life smiling.
Dawg has gone to some trouble to suggest that it isn’t Islam or the Koran which inspires terrorism - it’s the awful conditions of life many Muslims face. His head, metaphorically, has been handed to him. He does, however, note that it is a small minority of the world’s Muslims who are active terrorists and likely less than a majority who support those terrorists. I might quibble with that but I suspect the numbers are rather higher for today’s text:
The case of Mehdi Kazemi has been reported with a degree of sympathy by the liberal British media which, by and large, doesn’t like seeing people hanged. The BBC found itself in a bit of a bind because, while it wholly approves of sodomy, it approves of Islam too. Both are on its Category One list of stuff which deserves to be treated nicely in news reports. And so we were told that while Iran was a ‘conservative’ society which did indeed exhibit the occasional bout of homophobia, it wasn’t necessarily the case that Kazemi would be strung up as soon as he got back. If he pretended not to be gay, he’d probably be OK for a while. At other times we have been informed that Islam is a peaceable religion which has nothing at all against homosexuals, it’s just the macho, patriarchal culture which prevails in that part of the world. This little nugget of voluntary self-delusion is true only if you accept that Islam itself is a product of the macho, patriarchal culture in that part of the world. There are 57 member countries of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference, of which 41 sign up to state persecution of homosexuals and ten put them to death. ron liddle, the spectator
And, well, yes, Fred Phelps and his tens of adherents and Jerry Falwell and the Pope are not too keen on homosexuals. However, and here is my point, so far as I am aware, no Western nation or mainstream Christian communion calls for their execution.
Here is the thing, Dawg, Christianity has come to terms with the Enlightenment. Some wings have embraced Enlightenment values, others have grudgingly accepted the reality of those values without actual embrace. Not so Islam.
So the question I have is whether mainstream, leave aside Wahhabi and Safal variants, Islam is capable of not killing homosexuals or advocating (to use the lefty coinage) for their deaths.
(Note: I have no problem at all with Imams, Pastors and Rabbis condemning homosexuality from their pulpits or in the letters pages of newspapers - they and their adherents have a perfect right to condemn whatever they believe to be sinful…it’s the killing which I want renounced.)
I asked myself how it was possible that those who, like me, sincerely and boldly called for a “moderate Islam”, assuming the responsibility of exposing themselves in the first person in denouncing Islamic extremism and terrorism, ended up being sentenced to death in the name of Islam on the basis of the Koran. I was forced to see that, beyond the contingency of the phenomenon of Islamic extremism and terrorism that has appeared on a global level, the root of evil is inherent in an Islam that is physiologically violent and historically conflictive [emphasis added by Spengler]. Magdi Allam quoted at Spengler
I sure hope ti-guy or Dawg doesn’t call this chap a white supremeist or anything.
Dr. Dawg has seen the movie and didn’t like the tie in between the Koran and the ongoing Islamic terrorism which Wilders’ film underscores. Dawg drags out the hoary idea that the Bible has blood curdling passages too, so there. Which explains all the headlines we see about Anglicans beheading the infidels and Biblically inspired Amish hostage takings. I don’t have time for a point refutation of Dawg and I doubt it is necessary - the best example he can come up with is Fred Phelps who, one must admit is pretty horrible and has a following which numbers in the tens none of whom, so far as I am aware, has crashed a jet into a building while singing “Onward Christian Soldiers”.
Update 03/29: The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour condemns Fitna - a film she almost certainly has not seen - and calls for “appropriate restrictions” on all forms of freedom of speech. Perhaps the crocodile will eat her last. (emphasis added) ghost of a flea
Ed Driscoll pages me to weigh in on Kathryn’s post below, about Islam overtaking Catholicism in worldwide adherents. But I’m not sure I’ve got anything to say I haven’t already been taken to court over. (my emphasis)I had the bizarre experience earlier today of watching the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview a young Muslim about my “flagrant Islamophobia”, as evidence of which he cited my appalling habit of accurately quoting prominent Muslims. mark steyn, the corner
That bastard Steyn….imagine quoting the Islamists. Thank God we have the CHRC to prevent this profanity.
This is the new normal, not so new any more. It is a shocking work not so much in itself as for the fact we increasingly are no longer allowed to talk about so much of what is being done to us. We cannot speak ill of the enemy even as they parade in our streets saying “Freedom go to hell” and “God bless Hitler” and the like. We cannot properly honour the dead; the sound of bodies hitting the pavement and the sight of candies thrown in celebration to “Palestinian” children censored by our media gatekeepers. We cannot even string together the news into a short film without “provoking” insane rage, blood curdling threats and the promise of censorship and criminal charges from our home grown fifth columnists.
Remember: If you tell the truth you are spreading hate. If you make snuff films - real snuff films - for the delectation of your co-religionists you are advancing a “religion of peace” and will be described as an activist by CNN, the BBC and all the rest. This is not 1984. Orwell did not have a word for what we have made of ourselves. ghost of a flea
I finally have the comments back to working....sort of. Basically I have to wade through the spam to find the nuggets. I do this a couple of times a day. Sometimes comments are lost. I am working on this. What I need is a Capcha like the coolkids have.