A Wide Stance

February 7th, 2008 | Tags:

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Warren Kinsella has taken to snapping pictures of graffiti in washrooms to illustrate the need for s. 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act. I suspect Warren and I might agree the little shit who scrawled this deserves a spanking or, if he is a bit older, a few well aimed punches from his more enlightened team mates not to mention an hour or two scrubbing out every stall in the bathroom to remove every bit of graffiti which is what a coach of mine demanded when I simply drew a mildly naughty picture on a wall.

However, that is not the effect of the Human Rights regime either federally or provincially. Stupid, hateful people “posting” in the anonymity of a bathroom stall are not going to be caught. (Unless Lucy Warman is hanging around enticing them to write nasty things.) Instead, on the logic of the HRC, the arena might well be subject to a complaint for “publishing” this vile little screed. Or, at least, for not getting in there with the SOS pad and eliminating it. (Something Warren could have done himself or asked the janitor to do.)

What the HRC effectively does is give citizens – Warren, myself, you – the easy out when we see or hear offensive expression: we call the government.

Now, when I am riding the bus and some lamer kids are chatting about “how fucking gay” PE is, I am quite willing, and often do, tell them to cut the language out. It’s what adults do. I don’t ask the bus driver to intervene. I don’t demand that the state act on my complaint – I just get the job done.

So when it comes to BS like the pic Warren posted or like the sexist racist diatribe some guy posting as “90’sareover” posts at Stormfront I begin my analysis with – what can I do? And, from there, what can “we” do? In the case of the washroom graffiti, wash it off, in the case of Stormfront, shun the site (not a big loss in my surfing habits).

Will this purely private initiative end offensive speech? Not immediately, nor should it as the idea of “offensive speech” is a shifting target. But ask yourself, how often do you hear the word “nigger” these days? (Outside rap and hip hop culture which is a whole other story.) How often do you hear native Canadians refered to as “jigs” or native Canadian women called “squaws”, and when was the last time you heard a Jew referred to as a “kike” or “heb”? Do you often hear women referred to as a “slit” or a “gash” – broad, chick and gal have made something of a post-feminist come back but as often as not from women themselves. All these words have fallen into disuse not because they are illegal but rather because we allow ourselves to be genuinely offended by them. Our personal intake of breath when someone calls a person of colour a “nigger” is sufficient, in the vast majority of cases, to correct the intolerance that usage implies.

If we outsource our capacity to be offended and to correct to the State we have, in effect, neutered ourselves.

Now, I note that Warren’s picture and my examples are rather simple minded – they obviously do not deal with things like cartoons which may offend or quoting Imams as to the breeding rates of Muslims in Europe. Nor should they. Because here the potentially offending speech is in support of a legitimate objective: debate within a democratic nation. Painting a swastika on a gravestone in a Jewish cemetery or calling someone a “nigger” forwards no debate but is simply an expression of overweaning stupidity. However, these sorts of expressions are so primitive that they cannot be taken as incitement either. One is vandalism and should be treated as such, the other is rude and to be shunned as the rude always should be.

Hanging s. 13 on a bit of nasty graffiti shows just how intellectually bankrupt its defenders are. They want to justify its existence as a prophylactic against the one sort of speech it almost certainly cannot control. To give up free expression to better suppress graffiti is a bargain most of us will not make and we should not make it because, as Mike Brock pointed out, free speech is what gives us real democracy.

*Update: with traffic coming from SDA (thanks Kate) and FFF (thanks Kathy) it was a bit unfair to burn Kinsella’s bandwidth with a hotlink. But I was damned if I was going to post a crappy image twice the size it needed to be. So this image has had automatic colour and contrast adjustment and has been scaled to a 450px width.

If you have a minute find out more about Kinsella here.

Update #2: Jonathan Kay in the National Post:

As well as reproducing the earnest, lachrymose plea for censorship sent by his Jewish friend, Kinsella offers, by way of proof, a photo he took of a tiny piece of childish graffiti that says “White Power” — alongside two crudely drawn swastikas.

Good on Warren for having his cell-phone camera at the ready. But my reaction is: So what? When I was in junior high school, it was a common practice for kids to carve this sort of stuff into their desk (and far worse) because we were desperate for attention, and this was the easiest way to shock people. This is hardly indicative that the “web of hate” is reconstituting itself. (Even a generation ago, in fact, that “web” probably never did amount to much — it turns out that a surprising number of alleged hatemongers were actually police informants.) full comment

Kinsella – to whom I have linked more than enough – put up a preemptive piece but, when it comes down to it, Kay’s point is that we have moved on and Warren hasn’t. I wonder how the oldest living punk band is making out speaking of past it.

  1. February 7th, 2008 at 03:59
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    Heh. You know, I’ve NEVER seen anything like this in any mens’ washroom stall here in Alberta.

    Ever.

    What we see instead are crude renderings of the male reproductive organs using Sharpie markers along with written enticements for other males to contact the artist for some man lovin’.

    This is so common that I will not let my daughter—who is at just the right age for asking embarrassing questions—use the mens’ washroom for any reason (like when there’s a line-up for the ladies’ room).

    Apparently all the racists are in Toronto while all the gay men are living in Alberta, except that no one bothered to inform the Toronto Star of the development.

    That’s just damned funny.

  2. February 7th, 2008 at 03:59
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    Agreed. Additionally, the subjective basis in which hate speech is classified is too slippery a slope for a governmental agency to determine what, if anything, can be objectively deemed worthy of censorship for promotion of “hatred”.

  3. February 7th, 2008 at 05:10
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    Hey, you don’t suppose Warren will provide a handwriting sample just so we know for a fact that this isn’t some sort of Warman-esque effort at drumming up more HRC business?

    ‘Cuz, y’know, I’ve been suspicious of EVERYONE’S motives ever since some Alberta pol claimed that man and dinosaurs walked the earth together. Now whenever someone makes any sort of claim I want to see some kind of proof before I take it seriously.

  4. Rose
    February 7th, 2008 at 05:31
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    LOL is this a joke? Is he having a manic episode perhaps. LOL if this is real, how truely and utterly pathetic that picture is.

  5. February 7th, 2008 at 05:55
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    Great Ceaser’s Ghost! I had no idea the threat of the Nazi Scourge had infiltrated Arena Washrooms. We will make a stand at the Urinals!

  6. February 7th, 2008 at 06:03
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    The photo depicts a crime: Vandalism. Destruction of someone else’s property, violence and incitement to violence are all crimes. Freedom of speech should end when its medium of expression belongs to someone else. I may think Rush is a great band; this does not give me the right to tattoo a picture of Getty Lee on your forehead. Or to draw it on a bathroom wall.

    Preventing someone from expressing an opinion – loathsome as it may be to somebody – is another story. Mr. Kinsella surely has the best intentions in opposing Nazism. What he may not have realized is that at the core of Nazism and all other totalitarian ideologies are bans on opposing speech, usually with some overtly stated philanthropic goal (creating the new man, restoring lost dignity, expressing the true faith, etc.).

    And in every one of these despotisms a bureaucrat with a notepad forcing a journalist to defend himself from a charge of thought-crime. And you know what? That journalist is usually Jewish. Not Nazi Germany. Not Argentina in the ‘70s. Canada. Right now.

    We are fighting a new Nazism alright. But it is the state and its well-meaning apologists for censorship that worry me not some dolt with a marker pen in a bathroom stall.

  7. David
    February 7th, 2008 at 06:26
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    Who’s to say Warrent isn’t the artist. He seems to hang about some rough spots.

  8. February 7th, 2008 at 06:26
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    I’ll pay twenty bucks for a sample of Kinsella’s handwriting.

  9. Marie of Romania
    February 7th, 2008 at 06:34
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    “Mr. Kinsella surely has the best intentions in opposing Nazism.”

    I’ll say.

    Plus, he’s a world-class writer who just happens to be a Nigerian woman.

  10. Honey Pot
    February 7th, 2008 at 06:42

    I want to know right now, if that was Kinselsueya’s own stall, or if it was taken by his shoe camera of the stall beside his.

    Liberals have some very odd bathroom rituals.

  11. February 7th, 2008 at 07:01

    So … Warnin Kansmeelya wants the HRCs to police public restrooms??

    Is that so his sensitive feewins won’t be hurts??
    I would have thought that the self described “Prince of Darkness” and bad boy of Canadian Politics who is also the leader of the famous punk band Shit From Hell would have enough meat between his legs to deal with it on his own.

    But now we see the true nature of the beasties! As the public scrutiny of their antics ramps up they revert to being ever more pathetic and desperate to score some kind of coup in their juvenile little game.

    The problem Warren faces is that he has many betters in this world and he has provoked their animosity. The more he protests the more he is revealed as a juvenile minded little scold and whiner with delusions of importance.

  12. dean spencer - fox
    February 7th, 2008 at 07:48

    Yeah, warren with his camera in the mens room. This is too funny. He’s gone from a position of apparent influence with the liberal party to haunting the mens room with a camera. Uh, come to think of it, i guess it was sort of a lateral move, not really a comedown at all.
    I saw that kind of thing on Law and Order recently; I wonder if he knows that weird combination of shoe taps, etc, to get the next guy’s attention.

  13. justWondering
    February 7th, 2008 at 08:06

    Has anyone checked the handwriting against Richard Warman. Perhaps he’s doing more undercover work for the HRC…..

  14. shaken
    February 7th, 2008 at 08:59

    Let me see if I have this right…

    s-13 IS currently in effect. The writing IS currently on the wall. Shall we ask ourselves how effective s-13 is at preventing the writing on the wall? Not very. So his point is what, again?

    Maybe he is arguing the case for surveillance cameras in stalls? I’m sure in that case we’ll see plenty of freedom of expression.

  15. February 7th, 2008 at 11:23

    I think kinsella equates white power and Nazis to anyone who wants an equal shot at a job.

    I bet his fingers had blue ink on them, well there is a trend.

  16. February 7th, 2008 at 20:19

    Just a note to Warren (‘cause you know he googles himself every day): we live in the same neighbourhood, and quite possibly use the same public washrooms. If I ever see you with a cell phone taking photos in a washroom that my teenage son also uses, I’ll break you in half and consider it my civic duty. The > will go to the cops and have you charged. I’m sure they’ve hear all the excuses before…

  17. rabbit
    February 7th, 2008 at 20:31

    So Warren is spending a lot of time roaming through public men’s rooms, is he?

    That’s more information than I really needed to know.

  18. Don Morris
    February 7th, 2008 at 22:45

    You guys are missing the Liberal point here, this is about job creation, not anti- NAZI-ism.

    Just think how many jobs could be created if we hired a bathroom cop, and installed one in every public restroom.

    Of course, the REAL NAZIS would probably graffitize their own bathrooms ,out of frustration, so we’d have to consider open warrants to inspect everyone’s toilet, any time of the day or night.

    Hm, sort of the like how the Gun Control laws work, come to think of it.

  19. Intellectual Pariah
    February 8th, 2008 at 04:08

    “But ask yourself, how often do you hear the word “nigger” these days? (Outside rap and hip hop culture which is a whole other story.) How often do you hear native Canadians refered to as “jigs” or native Canadian women called “squaws”, and when was the last time you heard a Jew referred to as a “kike” or “heb”? Do you often hear women referred to as a “slit” or a “gash” – broad, chick and gal have made something of a post-feminist come back but as often as not from women themselves.”

    To be honest, I’ve never heard anyone call Jews “kikes” or “hebes”, except when play-acting a bigot. The few genuine anti-Semites I’ve met just call them “Jews”. I’ve only heard “slit” and “gash” in parodies of ultra-campy gay speech. I may have heard “squaw”, and certainly lots of people said “nigger” when I was a kid in the 60s and 70s. (I remember someone at camp asking “Does anyone here mind nigger jokes?”)

    Slurs I have heard include “Paki”, “Chink” and probably a dozen terms for homosexual.

  20. ldd
    February 8th, 2008 at 06:04

    Heh, so this wacko warren k guy is now out trolling in hockey arena bathrooms?
    Where predominantly kids are?
    And suddenly HE finds this?
    And no other parent has ever noticed this before?
    Nor the janitor?

    Even a grade fiver would have rubbed it off or smudged it or brought it to his father’s attention or asked a friend….

    Looks fresh, very fresh.
    Like when you step in dog poo, you know it when you’ve hit the fresh pile.

    Besides that is an adults writing, everything is too symmetrical for this to be a child’s or even a teenager filled with angst.

    What a simpleton.

  21. john begley
    February 8th, 2008 at 10:47

    my theory is it was written by a jihadist who couldn’t spell “Whyte” properly…..

  22. Dave
    February 9th, 2008 at 11:19

    Correct me If I am wrong but doesn’t that look like Warrens hand writing?

  23. greyburr
    February 9th, 2008 at 20:23

    Amazing,that anyone gives Kinsilly ,a 48 year old adolescent ex nastie sh*t from h*ll the time of day.The fact that Kinsilly constantly touts punk and it’s various cultures and subcultures of profanity,shock and even neo-nazism indicates an individual with character/mental development issues.The man is a narcissic poser who craves attention.Paul Martin was right in dumping his arse out the door!

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